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againstinsanity 10/08/2020 05:37
Yay!
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Oh I'll make love to this page later
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So much to ramble on about
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It will be great
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againstinsanity 10/08/2020 16:23
Those among us who are more scientific will say that this world is just us and that there is no higher being
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Yet is this true
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Even atheists sometimes join a religion
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Why?
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When the going gets tough we seem to look towards something more
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We just join whatever we think is right
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Multiple creeds, movements, Gods and prophets exist
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Why?
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It's because something else exists
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We just give it a name and write books about it
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We give it creeds
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Rules
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Laws
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What is this something else that exists?
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This force
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This force seems to exist to guide us
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All we must do is look or seek it and it will respond
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This force doesn't lean good or evil
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It is neutral
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People make it lean one way or the other
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How long has this force existed?
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Where did it come from?
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It also doesn't care if you believe in it or not (as evidenced by atheists)
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This force seems to be selfless
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It acts, saves, protects and kills with nary a thought
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againstinsanity 10/08/2020 18:15
much like Taoism or Heka in ancient egypt
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againstinsanity 10/08/2020 23:37
okay so this force
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what created it?
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it's doing stuff but why
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it does not need to be felt or experienced to do it's job
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for a reference to this force I am thinking of, just think of the Aether
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this force does not have a name that I know of
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however, I'm pretty sure that behind the power of all of the Gods lies this force
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a god is just the force given identity
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 02:23
tomorrow I shall ramble on about this blue thing we live on
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😄
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 03:18
or maybe I will do death/afterlife (edited)
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not sure
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 16:15
Okay so what is death?
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Death comes in all forms
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Death is the ceasing of life
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Is death natural? I would say so
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Although some people would claim otherwise
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Does an afterlife exist?
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Maybe, maybe not
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I see no reason not to say that an afterlife exists
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But if there is one, what would it look like?
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 18:53
Is it the Mesopotamian nether?
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the Jewish Sheol?
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the Canaanite Mot?
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The Vedic afterlife?
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the Celtic Otherworld? (edited)
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 20:32
There are hundreds if not thousands of different versions of the afterlife (edited)
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A lot of these after-lifes have been built on and changed by the people who originally created them over periods of thousands of years
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The first 3 I mentioned are some of the ones I know of where you are not judged by your actions in life
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However through meeting other cultures and other religions, they changed and it quickly became a belief teeming with judgment and possibly disaster
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Their laws became prisons, their Gods became wardens
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Why does this seem to be the natural progression in a society?
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 21:00
I understand that breaking laws need punishment but why does this have to reach the underworld?
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 22:52
By having these punishments extended to the underworld
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Where people should go without fear
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You have people who on their death beds scream, claw and beg for forgiveness from laws that have no business scaring men when they are on they're way to their final resting place
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When people should head into the other side, they should go without any fear or anything, they should go in complete peace but because of these laws that some fucking leeches invented, you have people who are screaming and clawing for forgiveness for something they never needed to be forgiven for
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It's been happening for thousands of years and it is utterly disgusting
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I don't know who or how long ago people had laws bleed into the afterlife but you people make me fucking sick and I spit on your graves
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againstinsanity 11/08/2020 23:19
Hundreds if not thousands of religions have fear somewhere in their afterlife and this is a grave mistake because you are having either very sick individuals including children or brave men in battlefields all across time dying from war and wounds, or very old people laying in their death beds screaming, crying and begging not to go into the afterlife because some fucking assholes attributed laws to their Gods
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againstinsanity 14/08/2020 01:13
So something has occurred to me
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Before I move topics I should add a message onto my death ramble (edited)
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Then I'll move topics
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Hmm
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This is a very old story, hundreds of year's old, I have long forgotten where I came across it but the story has ingrained itself in my being (edited)
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This will ruffle some feathers and that's okay
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Hundreds of year's ago in an Asian country a man's master of many year's died and at the funeral while everyone was weeping and crying because of the lives that he touched, the student walked in, gave 3 cries and started to leave
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Everyone stopped and looked at him
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They asked him why he only cried so little after his master of many year's died and said that he was dishonoring his masters memory
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He responded by saying that his master died and that spending an extended amount of time to mourn him would be pointless and that mourning has a place and time and that you should not mourn more then is needed then he walked out (edited)
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:35
Okay, Freewill and Determinism, freewill is the idea that we are in control of our own choices and can decide of our own will, determinism on the other hand is the idea that something is making every choice we make and we have no say in the matter, now they both have been cut down and split into different things, however for the sake of clarity, I will not be cutting it or splitting it up
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at the end of the day, we won't know
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it's all personnel thought
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:38
What
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Who then would be in control of all our actions accept for God himself? Like the author of a play?
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:40
well God or the Gods depending on religion but yes
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:40
We don't have free will
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 03:40
ay bruh let the dude speak
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:40
We are puppets of higher powers and forces
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But does the puppet know who pulls his strings? From his perspective he has free will.
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:42
how is the puppet master not the highest power?
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would it not have to be?
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:42
There can be more than one puppet master
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A great many masters have their strings in us all
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:43
true
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:43
And perhaps there is a great director of all of them who would be called God
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:43
Maybe maybe
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:44
But people who believe in determinism make a fatal error, and I'm sure you know this
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Its too easy to use it as an excuse.
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:44
yes
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:47
Well see and here in lies another question then, and this is why I am forced to believe in determinism: How would it even be possible for God to have given everyone "free will". If he knows what we will all do in advance, and has supreme power? (edited)
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:48
That is the flaw with a god that is everywhere and all knowing
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:48
Its not a flaw though
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If he were not such things he would not be God
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:48
ehh
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not really
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:49
What do you mean?
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 03:50
the idea of a god that is all-knowing I am pretty sure is greek in origin, in the earlier religions, that was why sacrifices and repentance were used, one to get the god to look at you and the other to admit your sins because he or she did not know of them (edited)
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it's very interesting
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 03:55
I am not familiar with the origin of that concept, but unless you are talking about some kind of multitude of lesser Gods... the one God, the Highest God, the God of the west must be several things by definition, otherwise he would not be God: All knowing, All Powerful, and he must either BE time itself, be in all times simultaneously, or be outside of time.
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And this conflicts with true free will.
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Like if I see a man drowning, and I don't save him, or even if I try and am unable to save him, I am not guilty
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Because I didn't put him in that position in the first place, and second of all in required effort on my part to save him.
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However God on the other hand, because of his unlimited power and forethought, there is no such thing as effort. So for him not to save the man would be wrong.
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However God cannot be guilty of anything because he is the defenition of good
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His will is the plan for the universe, infact you could even say his will IS the universe. (edited)
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Therefore how would it be possible for us to have our own power that could direct our own intentions contrary to his? How would any man think his own plans liable to succeed against that of Gods?
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It is not so.
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The only way this would be possible would be if our own powers and wills were infact simply part of God all along, or at the very least part of the plan.
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Either way from our perspective we have to act as though free will exists.
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:10
well great, you cost me my chat lol
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😦
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:10
lol
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:10
You can share
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:11
I had the chat first so the name should stay
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:11
d_loaded made thge channel in 2018
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:11
but that was not this channel
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this channel is where I ramble
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:11
do you know the meaning of foppery
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in ancient terms
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:12
Wait yea wth does it mean
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:12
foppery is what french people in the french revolution would call places like this
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this is foppery
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:13
Ohh
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:13
-_-
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there
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happy?
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:15
nah
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:15
his name is first as well
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:15
it be foppery
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:16
I de-test this change
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XD
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WHYGOOD 15/08/2020 04:17
Thats it
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Im banning
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Cya bitterman
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:18
ay bruh
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WHYGOOD 15/08/2020 04:18
ok
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I wanna test
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:18
Why would Putin be wide?
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What is it about him that has made him be the widest?
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:18
because he is big dick
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:19
He has a small russian penis
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againstinsanity 15/08/2020 04:19
this channel has now gone to the dogs, I will delete my messages and wash my hands of this chat
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:19
no
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:19
Its been torn from your hands by dogs?
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:19
Dick loaded
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:19
How could you have let this happen?
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new account acuzi 15/08/2020 04:19
ok im fuckin archiving this chat
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:19
LOl
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WHYGOOD 15/08/2020 04:20
Fat that’s very inappropriate
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:20
I didn't change the name or anything like that
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FaT_EaRtHeR 15/08/2020 04:20
Bruh I remember what I used to call all the old don members
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Kibby was the donfuer mom d was the donfuer dad whygood was also the donfuer dad and momona was the donfuer grandma
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D_loaded 15/08/2020 04:21
lol
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Kibby was never motherly material
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she barley played (edited)
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WHYGOOD 15/08/2020 04:23
Right
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Mikel 22/10/2020 05:42
Holy fuck
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Why wasn't I given powers to see message history
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This is bitterman rambling
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