What does everyone think of a "competitive recruitment" policy where we would give a high ranked status and access to the Collab base to high-ranking members of other neutral building groups such as the collective, geezers, possibly VEA, etc.
traveeseemo
What does everyone think of a "competitive recruitment" policy where we would give a high ranked status and access to the Collab base to high-ranking members of other neutral building groups such as the collective, geezers, possibly VEA, etc.
you see.... donfuer is a place to easily earn your title on 2b2t and be recognized. its much hard to do that by yourself, krobar and jack have made a rep for themselves by themselves so they dont exactly need us per say....
Copypasta: Hey welcome to the Donfuer public channel. I noticed that we have not received an application from you. Let me know if you want to learn more about our group or if I can help you apply!
Hey guys sharing a marketing concept called the funnel
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To grow Donfuer members we need to increase the 'awareness' top of the funnel and also improve the conversion rate at each step to the DF members stage
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Being more exclusive in the funnel hurts our conversion rate, but more exclusive groups may increase apps. (ie people want to join spawnmasons because its exclusive)(edited)
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Looking for ways to reduce false-negatives: good builders who don't make it through the funnel
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Our strategy right now is to be an inclusive group as evidenced by the 2b2t survey results
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We still have prestige because our bases and projects are cool which offsets the 'exclusivity' effect. Not all groups that are exclusive have prestige because they are not doing anything worth talking about.
I was on 2b for 2 years before I joined DF as my first "group" since I was just playing with IRL friends and they had gotten busy and bored with fighting spawn and 2 they didn't hack. I had to teach them Lambda. So Future client, DF, and such changed my speed and progression on 2b...
Another idea (this one is just a spitball) - what about acquiring groups under 20 members? How it would work is we could give the leader a decent position and fast track the acquired members to positions relative to the one in the group and then give them their own base for a time until they gain trust. This would be a great way to gain members quickly. The default offer would be "get acquired by Donfuer and get access to our recruitment system, restricted access to building materials, proxy system, world downloads on the archive under the Donfuer banner, join our network and gain reputation + fast track yourself through the ranks” + maybe a token gesture like a couple kits or something" thinking like small vanilla groups with limited recourses(edited)
traveeseemo
Another idea (this one is just a spitball) - what about acquiring groups under 20 members? How it would work is we could give the leader a decent position and fast track the acquired members to positions relative to the one in the group and then give them their own base for a time until they gain trust. This would be a great way to gain members quickly. The default offer would be "get acquired by Donfuer and get access to our recruitment system, restricted access to building materials, proxy system, world downloads on the archive under the Donfuer banner, join our network and gain reputation + fast track yourself through the ranks” + maybe a token gesture like a couple kits or something" thinking like small vanilla groups with limited recourses (edited)
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I don't think that we should impliment that. We are different from the VEA in many ways. We are a building group and building only. VEA builds but they are still different from us. Another thing is that we don't care about for example logos at spawn and I'd say that giving a new member his first impression of the group being to go to spawn and advertise for us are both annoying and not what they signed up for and seams desperate.
Only thing I can see that we could do in spawn but still would be things DonFuer could do is to build spawn projects or something. Thing is that it would draw a lot of attention to us from griefers.
No.. im trying to think of this from a recruiting perspective.... make regular diamond armour kits an dm people at spawn askin if theyre into building an if they are slip them a shitty kit and tell them to go to the "Safe haven"
recruiting new friends from spawn is better then letting insiders apply
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atleast you know theyre new an got nothin
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havnt done any one wrong.
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yet
Darkomier
I don't think that we should impliment that. We are different from the VEA in many ways. We are a building group and building only. VEA builds but they are still different from us. Another thing is that we don't care about for example logos at spawn and I'd say that giving a new member his first impression of the group being to go to spawn and advertise for us are both annoying and not what they signed up for and seams desperate.
Idk I still think we should have smaller spawn projects where we build something as a group and then new player will find them while they are escaping spawn and their first impression of Donfuer would be cool builds
Yea but I still think it's more important to have something that looks really good to last for a short time then have something mediocre looking last for a long time
I think we would gain more if we have it as a group thing. Like once every month or something we design something cool we build at spawn. We move the mats and then we all meet up and finishes it in like a day or 2. Then when we are done we could set up signs and map arts telling people to join us or somthing.(edited)
Any suggestions for my welcome channel msg:
Hey welcome to the Donfuer public discord. We are super excited to have you here. Donfuer is an elite building group on 2b2t. We’ve created some of the largest bases in 2b history. Check out our video how far we’ve come: https://youtu.be/6q2G0n-Yn0U?si=jnV1_
We’d love for you to take part in our next epic base. Look for the following channel and submit your application: "start application here"
Any suggestions for my welcome channel msg:
Hey welcome to the Donfuer public discord. We are super excited to have you here. Donfuer is an elite building group on 2b2t. We’ve created some of the largest bases in 2b history. Check out our video how far we’ve come: https://youtu.be/6q2G0n-Yn0U?si=jnV1_
We’d love for you to take part in our next epic base. Look for the following channel and submit your application: "start application here"
lol I got a 5b player that played on 2b and quit for 2 years because there's no dupe here. He's playing on 2b again and tried to make a base at like 2m+ and got some basic builds and found out one of the guys hes based with is ratted. the Ratter sent the base mate the coords of where his base mate was. So now he's waiting for them to show and grief and dont know where to go. So I told him to apply.
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Travis already found him once.
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Rainbowrem13 is his discord. Rainbowrem11 is his IGN
I might send a DM to some hand picked <15 year olds to participate in the build contests so they promote and continue to associate Donfuer with positivity on the server(edited)
The bigger the top of the funnel the more conversions we will get hopefully
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One thing we might want to consider is a Donfuer brand server that we can market on r/mcservers that funnels people to our discord @a1 didn’t you say you hosted one before?
traveeseemo
One thing we might want to consider is a Donfuer brand server that we can market on r/mcservers that funnels people to our discord @a1 didn’t you say you hosted one before?
lol I’ve been banned on several Reddit accounts . Just make a new one and cary on . Also discord won’t do a fuckin thing about us inviting people . They blatantly allow the worst shit ever on discord(edited)
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I’m not concerned about them
a1
I have a mc server, but it's for the build contest
I don't think Donfuer 2b will ever be in a real golden age again as the server will prob never be as big and have such a large number of new incoming players again
Which one the one I dmd or the one Lukent was gonna look into. As I dmd the guy 6h before he was accepted and I asked Lukent to look into the guy almost 10h before he was accepted(edited)
Yea Ik but only having 13h total on the server and saying he joined 4 years before he actually did and 12h of those hours was in the last month sent red flags(edited)
Well this is only if all the build pics he sent waas stuff he built on 2b that is. But as he used a client that will be my theory. All of thing he sent are builds that take longer then 13h total to build on different places on the server. That would make it lying about join date and build pics which is something he should be denied for if true
IMO the best time to get a recruit is when they’re new to the server. They have no allegiances with any other group and nothing to question their loyalty
I bought like a 30dub all illegals stash from ccorp from their exit scam. Ended up reverting like 10 or so and someone stealing another 10 from the area I moved them too
My 6b branch leader just fuck8ng aploidguized in our announcements to a doxer/greifer for "kicking him out unfairly" because he found our base and he doesn't want him to greif
i am aware i am not like traves messaging people who join public but in my defence the proxy has been a bit weird and not working i check applications but it's up right now and we are getting people a lot but i sometimes don't get the chance to check the apps they can accepted before i can check since i am not always on my pc since the weather is getting nicer and college is getting to finish up(edited)
well i found when i was messaging people on 2b with the recruiter we got maybe 1 out of 10 that where okay but the rest where a pain to get to recruit and i gave up with the public dc. messaging new people i still check it and i see people join usually apply anyways but i was messaging people and for days trying to get them though the recruit but it was just not worth the time.(edited)
so basically if people message me asking about joining i help. same as help with them all the way thought the prosses but it seems to let the people join on there own works best for some reason as much as i want to help i dont want dmed about silly stuff.(edited)
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but idk i have been hanging out in the community more with mako and others that seems to be a good thing for the group because i am representing it and people think i am chill and they think the group is chill because i am like sid did and got him to join but i am not 100% sure it seems to work good if i leave it and help when i am needed and let it happen organically. we dont have any insiders for a long time because of safty things and i think when we where promoting it in 2b we where making our self a target somewhat but idk(edited)
:D i am going to make pearl rooms at both. only around 50k from each other so i can jump from one to one with my 1 account since no proxy at them.(edited)
so after hobbiton and cherrytown are griefed i think we should start doing only one scout base just so we can get to know people better and can see how people are doing overall
so after hobbiton and cherrytown are griefed i think we should start doing only one scout base just so we can get to know people better and can see how people are doing overall
Although it does mean that if an insider somehow gets in its going to be worse to lose the only 1 scout base instead of 1 out of 2 or 3 so maybe make a second one if we start to get too many scouts in that base we can make another one but idk how will we do that and not make it start as a solo base of 1 scout
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Tho for now cherry and hobbiton are good so its not really a problem
Yeah and if necessary 2 bases one for trusted and good builders other one for everyone else, but we will see and adjust accordingly to the situation there might be a rise in players over summer tho which means it's a good time to advertise cause maybe new players have time to play or people coming back(edited)
@vethre When you have the time could you please go ahead and unretire DuxD. They were a previous member and would like to come back to build and hang. They are cool. I informed them that our Cheif Recruitment Officer would be in touch when available! Thanks Veth!
Senko Fox
@vethre When you have the time could you please go ahead and unretire DuxD. They were a previous member and would like to come back to build and hang. They are cool. I informed them that our Cheif Recruitment Officer would be in touch when available! Thanks Veth!
This Friday I am going to announce a building comp for the scout bases (mainly to increase activity in hobbiton) each member would have 1 week to make a build in their base and to send it in the base chat and ping me so I can add it to the list of submission, they can also submit more than 1 build just has to be made in the 1 week timeframe, there would be like 3 awards: best looking(voted by highrankers), biggest build(has to be an actual build), most submissions(again all submissions have to be actual builds and not like a bunch of tiny builds) and award winner would get like 10 shulkers of whatever they want (other than netherite stuff that are not tools or armor)
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ofc is someone doesn't like the idea please tell me before so I don't end up doing it without you guys agreeing to it(edited)
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also please give feedback about the idea so I dont end up doing it and it doesn't work
whoever has the donfuer reddit account post the pinned picture as advertisement
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please
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we can also do some chat advertisment but those aren't very good in the long terms
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Map arts at spawn are good we need to do that as well
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Server is very high pop we need to use that
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I think what we should do is chat advertisments for 1 hour at a time so like 1 hour they will be advertising than stop wait an hour and go again so they get muted slower and still target everyone
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Also we can maybe think about hosting a public build comp for everyone on 2b2t with like high prizes for the winners to give donfuer a better reputation but idk how we will do that yet
Also we can maybe think about hosting a public build comp for everyone on 2b2t with like high prizes for the winners to give donfuer a better reputation but idk how we will do that yet
Yeah I doubt he'd cover that but you never know. We 100% have to do another 1 - 2hr pub one again. I feel like we could get a lot more contestants now.
vethre
anyway yeah we defo need to do one of those it will give us a better reputation and if we make it a regular monthly thing would be cool
We should really look into a public build comp next week I got quite a bit of free time to help set it up but again I can't run a server 24/7 for a week
but rn we are not getting a lot of recruits at all because of advertising I am working on a map to put in spawn but I also need lukent to do the chat advertisments as I don't have a proxy
but rn we are not getting a lot of recruits at all because of advertising I am working on a map to put in spawn but I also need lukent to do the chat advertisments as I don't have a proxy
I wasn't originally going to use ai generated images but Photoshop couldn't not stop suggesting me the ai creation feature so I decided to give it a try
hey @Larske sorry for being annoying about this but recruiting is very low and non of our accounts can do chat advertisement (even the 1 proxy I have access to is muted even tho it only said 2 words ever) and all that so I am trying to use other ways to get recruiting up as july and august are usually months were there is a lot of activity in 2b, so can you please post the advertisement I made earlier on the donfuer reddit? thanks
this is the advertisement you can post the top one with the human and for some reason aisan D_Loaded if you want instead Idrc I think they are both good maybe the fake d one is better tho in my opinion but whatever you want(edited)
also wait let me send the generic welcome message template here
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Hey (@User) Welcome to your first official Donfuer base please read the #rules leave your ign in the #ign-channel and read the #about to learn about how ranking up in Donfuer works. Hope you enjoy your time here
An check out #nerd-shit for configs and cool 2b2t related shit
cause if you look at the crazy amount of members we got from the chat adverts most of them aren't even here or are still scouts cause they are inactive/got kicked
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I think at the end of the day no matter how many people apply per month the amount of great builders and good people to join the group would be around the same but still the more that know about donfuer and apply the higher the chances of a good builder or person appearing so I think its still good to have a large amount of applications
@Larske I started building the map near jacksons base, I can get most of the stuff from the list above by going to the nether but If you can bring 2 shulkers of iron ore it would be good cause otherwise ill have to subtitude it and it would look a little worse its not the end of the world but yeah
as soon as possible would be nice cause I already started building but I could just leave that block and do the rest in the meantime so like as long as its sometime in the next 2 days its like fine and if i gotta wait even longer than its also alr
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cause its like the block i need most of I need 2 shulkers of it
@Larske I was able to get the rest of the stuff myself you don't need to bring anything its fine
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tho if you already have converted crimson nylium I would appriciate that cause I just go a bunch of netherrack and bones so ill still need to convert it myself
for the scouts? yeah I think julia scout 3 and voided valentine scout 3 normally I would have said more suggestions but the cherry grief makes me really doubt some of the scouts these 2 are the only one I am 100% sure didn't leak
Its a massive desert for like western type builds but I also made the signboard close to the spruce area so they can do medival and stuff if they wanna
this is the map progress its quite slow cause full block valley but I keep running out of raw iron blocks which are quite a pain to get I took as much iron ore as I could and mined it (2 shulkers) and got about half of what I needed to I keep having to go afk mine iron with baritone
damn... I am kinda far out i don't really want to go back just take one for now I put them every where anyway for now we will spread them again even more in a week when they are mostly gone
its all over spawn I might post a little fake reddit on a random account saying like heres a cool map art I found at spawn acting like a new person to show it even to people who don't go to spawn
Hey (@User) Welcome to your first official Donfuer base please read the #rules leave your ign in the #ign-channel and read the #about to learn about how ranking up in Donfuer works. Hope you enjoy your time here
An check out #nerd-shit for configs and cool 2b2t related shit
Outlast got smart in hiding their tracks, but not good enough. @vethre found something I overlooked because he joined, reset his hwid, then left the server so it wouldn't be on his list.
vethre
@IOSL I left lots of maps and item frames there for you
i think recruitment should be a lot more tedious, i want less people joining but the ones we do accept are the ones that we think are going to be good long term members
Yeah we need to only accept good people that will stay no point having lots of members if most are inactive or go inactive after 2 werks
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That's why I feel like public chat advertising isn't good anymore I think we gotta have targeted advertising for people who are interested in building on 2b and less just people who want a group
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So like do advertising with impressive build posts or something
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Maybe like after a big base gets griefed release every like month or few weeks a reddit post of a cool build from there explaining what the build is and than leave a if you also want to help us make an impact on the sever or something like that with a join link
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I feel like it's not going to attract a million people but the ones it will would be more people who are interested in building and what we do
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Above that I'm really going to be strict with recruiting any missing info on application that is required is an immediate deny. Above that I think we should expect more at camp and not accept simple builds
A while ago I had an idea to make scout 2 or scout 3 bases
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And than make it harder to get promoted to scout 3 but easier to ranger
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That way insiders who are trying to get high in the ranks will be stopped before they even reach ranger (most likely atleast)
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Although this can cause an inactivity problem cause it's more bases
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So maybe if a scout base gets griefed we split scouts and scouts 3 into 2 different bases one for the scouts one for the scout 3 and than any other scouts to get promoted will stay at the base and only when the second scout base gets griefed will they go into the scout 3 base with exception of inactivity in the scout 3 base or people with vouches that can be directly added into the scout 3 base instead of the scout
It will keep the big bases secret from insiders and than we can separate camp into 2 pieces one for people who passed scout bases and all and one for trial members
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Or just have 3 different servers but that might be too much
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Didn't you guys used to have something like that already? Donfuer rangers or something
Tho I think there should be some form of communication between scouts and rangers and above(edited)
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And if we separate the serves that wouldn't really happen
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So maybe have a main server for everyone and a ranger and above server
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And have spawn bases even for higher ranks in the all server and have the more far away bases in the ranger+ discord and than have like a spawn base for rangers and Maa and than also an Maa knight base of main one and a ranger base
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Tho it might take a while to really implement that cause moving current bases channels and all can get complicated
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And also idk cause it means each person is at like 2 bases and thats not ideal
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So idk how we can make that happen without stopping communications between scouts and rangers and above
vethre
Tho I think there should be some form of communication between scouts and rangers and above (edited)
So maybe if a scout base gets griefed we split scouts and scouts 3 into 2 different bases one for the scouts one for the scout 3 and than any other scouts to get promoted will stay at the base and only when the second scout base gets griefed will they go into the scout 3 base with exception of inactivity in the scout 3 base or people with vouches that can be directly added into the scout 3 base instead of the scout
we stopped doing advertisment to attract lots of people and are going to be moving to advertising more for people who fit into donfuer
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so builds and stuff
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and less everyone in chat
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my idea was idk if I said it already I think i did was to upload to reddit a picture of a build from a griefed donfuer base once every month or 2 weeks with the if you also want to help us make builds like this in our next mega base apply today at donfuer.com/discord
yeah we only kick those who aren't in active bases
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tho as I said yesterday maybe its better if for scouts bases we have like a month time after start were we dont kick anyone even if they broke a rule like rule 6, and only after the base survived a month we can kick which can nuke the base, but again I think having a member who spreads nsfw and offensive shit is stuck here just isn't worth saving a scout base for another month
yeah true, but I think involving a high ranker with applications using that role is a good thing in my opinion.
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plus im going to be very busy and wont really have time to do interviews, ill still check apps and help with viceroy stuff but making time to do interviews will be very difficult for me, so currently only cosine is doing them i feel like help from someone who isn't occupied with setting up bases and stuff is always usefull
also new rule should be added saying that leaving offensive signs / map arts in donfuer bases is not allowed unless its for a map art museum or something like that were its not intentionally there but itself to be offensive, so baisically you can own whatver map you like just dont put them at donfuer bases
aight kick list is this aspen, miqrated, monsieuramper, serkan, shinomora, sneerypigeon505, sungodricki, flacko, fastbxll, southern, felix, voidstar, duck623, duxd, kronos, rohan
and reserve list is livix, ushear, zowelf
Duxd sounds familiar. Isn’t that the person who bought from donshop and is apart of donfuers hunger games division?
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Yes and yes to both of those questions. She asked me to join our division and then sent me a picture of when they bought something from donshop and I apparently delivered it
aight kick list is this aspen, miqrated, monsieuramper, serkan, shinomora, sneerypigeon505, sungodricki, flacko, fastbxll, southern, felix, voidstar, duck623, duxd, kronos, rohan
and reserve list is livix, ushear, zowelf
donfuer scout activity run down
trooperrzz reserve, only activity is ign in a month
wekac new
ushear reserve, no activity in a month
sungodricki reserve no activity in over 2 months also wtf pfp?
southpacifictradingco kick
sneerypigon505 promote scout 2 built at cursed wood
shinomora reserve no activity in over a month
Serkan reserve, inactive
riths idk you guys decide.
pixelplaymc kick
monsieuramper reserve inactive 1mnth+
medi reserve, inactive 1mnth+
livix reserve, inactive busy with vea
kittncommander reserve, has not built since cherry
jacklynmarie new ig
gloomyworld66026 promote scout 2 built at cursedwood
flacko reserve, they aint gunna be active lets be real
felix reserve, they havnt talked since hobiton bruh
fastbxll lel
eggking i think lukents friend?
swavy up to yall
necko uhmmmm they didn't built at cursed wood an were there for a whole month however they talk idk reserve?
Justine promote scout 2 they built at cursed wood
flyy uhh idk lol
aspen reserve, have not spoken in 2 months
lemontime reserve, they refuse to build...
One of them RickeyX was a really trustworthy scout. @Larske he was at that base that was never griefed. He went inactive and now he came back. I had him on reserve guard. He wants to know if his friend can come as scout 1 with him without doing the test.
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kind of a unique situation but we will sometimes let people skip camp if they have a vouch. wondering if we can send them directly to a base?
I'd say we call him out on it, just saying it's a nice build, but mention if he is going to take inspiration from online photos, he should make some changes to the build so that it isn't a copy/paste